they scored one run, and now they want some extra at bats, extra innings for higher taxes, it's not going to happen. the truth of the matter is, that republicans in the house are determined to close tax loopholes, but we're not going to do it to fuel more of the president's spending, we're going to do it to lower rates for families and businesses. >> i would just say, kevin, just as a parting thought, i think the messaging here should be pro growth, and i think you have every right to say, jared won't agree with me, i get that and a lot of democrats won't agree. you have every right to say that limited government is pro-growth and that, in fact, we saw that spending to gdp come down to the clinton years with good growth, during the reagan years with good growth, all the way back to post world war ii with good growth. and i think you all need a growth message. i think it's too austere. i really do. >> i agree. and i'll tell you, that's what main street is saying, as well.